The Studio CEO: Business Coaching For Yoga & Pilates Teachers & Studio Owners

You Can't Scale Past Your Own Thinking—Here's How Coaching Fixes That (with Katie Pulsifer)

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In this episode of the Studio CEO Podcast, Jackie Murphy sits down with Master Certified Life Coach Katie Pulsifer to explore why mindset is the real ceiling on business growth. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything “right” but still can’t scale without stress, this conversation will show you why coaching is the missing skill.

You’ll learn how coaching improves leadership, decision-making, nervous system regulation, and team management — and why you can’t outwork beliefs that quietly work against you. This episode is essential listening for yoga and Pilates studio owners who want sustainable success without burnout.


Key Takeaways

✔ You can’t scale past your own thinking
 ✔ Coaching expands what you can see and choose
 ✔ Leadership improves when curiosity replaces control
 ✔ Belief follows action, not the other way around
 ✔ Sustainable growth starts internally


FAQs 

Why is coaching important for business owners?
 Because it improves decision-making, leadership, and sustainability by addressing mindset.

How does coaching help with burnout?
 By regulating the nervous system and reducing urgency-based decisions.

Is coaching useful for studio owners?
 Yes — especially for team leadership, clarity, and growth.

Connect with Katie: https://www.katiepulsifercoaching.com/


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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to the Studio CEO, the only podcast that empowers yoga and Pilates teachers and studio owners to step confidently into their role as CEO. If you are ready to show up with passion, take your business seriously, and scale to new heights, without burning out, you are in the right place. I'm your host, Jackie Murphy, an award-winning certified business coach with over 12 years of experience inside the yoga industry. I have seen firsthand what it takes to build a profitable and scalable business. Join me as we dive into strategies, insights, and real-world advice that will help you grow your revenue, build a thriving team, and create a business that serves you as much as you serve your students. It's time to embrace your inner CEO and make more money without working more. This is just the beginning. All right, welcome back to the podcast. Today I have a guest for you, and I know that you're going to love hearing from her. We have Katie Pulsifer on the podcast, and she is a master certified life coach, creator of the Golden Coaching Certification, and a trusted guide for midlife women who've outgrown the lives they've spent years building. Wow, that's a big sentence. We could just start there, but I'm going to finish reading your bio. With over 13 years of experience in five years as an executive leader at the Life Coach School, Katie has trained thousands of coaches and supported countless clients with her heart-led approach rooted in excellence, integrity, and meaningful results. Katie, welcome to the podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here.

SPEAKER_01:

I am so happy to be here. I was excited getting ready for this today and knowing I was going to talk to you. So I think we'll just start with our history. Let's just tell the audience how we know each other and we can kind of go from there. But that I guess starts with your journey as a coach and how you found the Life Coach School.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Which I don't know if I know.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, maybe not. I know it's maybe been a while even since we've talked about it. But I started coaching in 2015, having worked with a coach myself for about three years, helping me navigate some massive disruptions in the middle of my life around a marriage ending and a career transition and the, you know, trying to solve the ultimate question of what am I going to do next? And coach really helped me figure that out. And I was so captivated by the work that I left the corporate world and started coaching people and then got certified at the Life Coach School and did my own business for several years. And it was really gratifying. And I just figured it out kind of without a lot of training in business and entrepreneurship. And an opportunity presented itself to work at the school coaching clients of the Life Coach School. And so I jumped on that to just build my skills, get a lot more experience. And I was one of the first coaches hired to coach full-time. And that ultimately turned into a director position. And about a year later, I found myself hiring coaches because we were expanding and growing so fast. And that's how I met you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. This was right after I had left the studio down here in Charleston and we were up in Brooklyn. And I, in a similar vein, wanted to improve my coaching skills and had gotten incredible results and certified through the life coach school. So I saw this opportunity and I applied, just thinking, wow, this would be great to learn how to coach any and every type of person. I haven't thought about this in years. So my memory is fuzzy, but the interview process was a little hard. It was a little long, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Oh, yes. It was very rigorous on purpose interviewing you and others who wanted that coveted position of coaching for the school. I, you know, I felt badly, and I also knew it was in your best interest that it'd be as rigorous as it was, because ultimately what I was asking of you all was to really utilize the tools you had been taught and really coach yourself to prepare for answering the questions in the application. But I think the scariest part for many of you was part of the interview process was coaching me.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, it's all coming back to me now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, I do remember. Yeah. So I would interview you and then I'd say, okay, great. I know everything I need to know. Now coach me for 20 minutes, which was usually terrifying for most applicants. You are an exceptional coach, so you breezed right through it, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you. And I I bring that up because we have so many studio owners who their process is similar, that like students will take a training at the studio and they audition to teach there and they have to teach. Usually it's the owner, the manager, the leaders of the studio. However, it's usually not quite as rigorous. And so having people, I don't know, this is not the right words, but fall through the cracks of being a teacher before they're ready or not really being supported to be put in the role of teaching. What would you say to that process that you were having people go through of really making sure they were the right fit? It was multiple rounds and it was coaching other people and sending coaching and coaching you. What would you say to the business owners who are maybe hesitant to do it that way? Who are just doing one audition and let them in?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, I can understand why they might just want to do one because it's so easy to think we don't have enough time and I don't want an overcomplicated process and I don't want to worry about a lot of follow-up. That can be daunting, but really having a robust interviewing process with different requirements really enables you to get, you know, a good 360 about a potential teacher that you might want to hire. Just understand also how do they have the stamina to jump through and complete all of the tasks that you're asking? Or at step one, are they quick to turn in step one, but then they disappear between step one and step two, which can be very revealing and telling. So having a three-step process, which is ultimately, I think, what we had in the interview process for you and others at the life coach school, just allowed me to track like what's the engagement, what's the level of interest here? Are they growing as they move through the different steps? Are they showing up professionally? How are their writing skills, communication skills, presence? It was never about being perfect on day one.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But it's just, you know, how were they treating that process? Were they taking that opportunity seriously? And how much did they want it? You know, it's funny, like there would be times I'd get into an interview and I could just tell energetically that the person didn't really want the position they thought they did. So we would just talk about that in a really candid way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I think you want something else. Let's figure out what that is together. And it was so such a relief to find that out before hiring. And I'm sure they would appreciate that as studio owners would appreciate that of teachers as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, Katie, that's so good because I think that conversation not happening leads to a lot of turnover and people being confused, thinking there's only one way to use the skill that they have. And clearly, you and I are both examples that once you have a skill set, there's many ways to use it and to put it into practice. So, one of the things I also remember was your onboarding process was so solid. And I remember getting trained on how to coach written coaching, and it was this full process of building that out. Did you create that process? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm just gonna pick your brain on creating processes then because that is what so many people are dealing with. How did you think about the onboarding process? How did you ensure that we were skilled in not just coaching verbally, but written coaching as well?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well, I mean, providing enough direction so that you know what's in scope and what's out of scope. So often saying, here are all the things that you don't need to do, or here are all of in the example of the written coaching, here are the questions that we don't answer. Here's what you don't have to handle, and you can just send off to customer support instead, or this is just out of scope, and just naming that. And then here's what's in scope. And then also it was a lot of trial and error, to be totally honest, and watching the process unfold for many months before we brought a lot of you into the position. But we were able to distill it down into what creates the best result as quickly as possible for the customer. And knowing that that was always the objective, then we I wrote the processes to support that. So, for example, you'll tell me how this relates to your studio owners.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But let's say someone writes in with a super lengthy coaching question. It's just paragraph and paragraph and paragraph and paragraph. I would advise you all pick the one thing to coach them on. You don't have to address each of the three bullets in each of the four paragraphs. You're not trying to coach on 12 things, you're trying to coach on one. So keep it laser focused and really dialed in.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, it's so good. The thing that I hear that I know is going to be helpful for the people listening is that you started with the end result in mind, almost like your intentional result that you wanted to create of what is going to create the best result for our clients and then create a process around that. And then from there, trial and error, figure out the process that you can multiply and use across many different people. Yes. So good. Okay, so let's let's zoom out. That's how we met each other. I ended up coaching. I remember waking up at like 7 a.m. and coaching till 8 p.m. And I loved it. I had no children. I was in New York, all I had to do was work. It was such a wonderful opportunity. And we'll we'll go into this as well because both of us have taken that skill that we learned there and utilized it elsewhere. But let's zoom out first and talk about in your mind, how would you define what is coaching? For someone who's brand new, who's like, I'm a studio owner, I know how to teach Pilates. What is coaching?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I heard a definition long ago that I still come back to over and over again. I wish I could remember who said it, but I love thinking of coaching the way this person teed it up, as if it's the architecture that we're building that is our future. It is the creation of our future. I love thinking of coaching that way. And we get at that through curiosity, compassionate question asking, and non-judgment. What is going to come next? We don't have any idea. But through introspection, great questioning, deep compassion, non-judgment, we can begin to find out together. And as a coach, we get to keep widening and expanding the possibility of options, which isn't as always so easy for our clients to do. It's probably not easy for new students in a yoga studio to do either. It's what do you mean I'm gonna be able to put my heels on the ground and downward dog? I still can't do that. But you know, a coach would believe or the teacher would believe in the my potential and possibility of that one day. Yes, and then hold that for others. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You said compassion, curiosity. There's one more.

SPEAKER_00:

Non-judgment.

SPEAKER_01:

Non-judgment, which is that's what yoga teaches. Yes. So what would you say then is the difference, in your opinion, between self-coaching and having a coach or being coached?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, self-coaching is, I mean, I think a must for as many people who are interested in accessing it as possible in terms of just at a baseline, just understanding ourselves, understanding the relationship between what we do and how we feel and what we think and what we dream about and our energy and our nervous system and our capacity. It's just it's the study of ourselves and how we do what we do in the world and why. It's so fascinating. And more often than not, when we're self-coaching, we're reflecting on what we're not doing or what negative thoughts we're having or what uncomfortable emotions we'll feel. Often we access self-coaching through something that's going wrong. I don't think that's the only way to access self-coaching, but I think it's the deep understanding of ourselves and the bettering of our relationship with ourselves.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And so if we do that, that's what we can do on our own. And then a coach can go even deeper by asking us questions that we just haven't, it's just not occurred to us to ask ourselves. They can often see things we can't see. You've probably heard the familiar expression of like, we're the fish inside the fish tank, but the coach can see the water that we're swimming in and see us, and they have this unique perspective, and therefore they can ask us really amazing questions.

SPEAKER_01:

It's so interesting. I love your architect example. We actually just had an architect come to our house because we need more space. Oh, cool. The two boys are growing, and quite literally, he walks around our house and can see how we could grow and how we could function in a way that I I literally, even if I was trying to come up with ideas, would not be able to come up with. And he presented these plans of here's what you could do, and it's you know, not that expensive, and here's how we can do it. And we were like, Oh, and that's exactly what I see as a coach doing, right? Like you are you're in your house, you you can't have that expertise outside opinion saying, look, there's more possibility over here, or you could grow this way or handle this with more compassion in any way. So it's a beautiful analogy. I personally cannot imagine building a business. Well, this is not that's not true. I did. I opened two studios without coaching. And then I found the Life Coach School podcast and then I got certified, and then I opened Studio Three. And so running a business without coaching skills felt like running into a brick wall every day because I couldn't shift where I thought was possible, and I saw massive results and changes when I learned coaching tools, self-coaching, and was being coached as well. You were also running a business and you have coaching tools. So it's probably hard to imagine not having them in your shoes. However, why would you say that they are necessary or at least helpful for someone running a business?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, let me just say that I have the tools and I've been doing this a really long time, and I forget the tools at least two days a week and just run around like I've never been coached before, and I forget all my training, and I make totally random decisions out of urgency and scarcity and a messy, messy, messy brain. So I am far from perfect, but more days than not, I remember my tools enough to know to ground me in really solid decision making to remind me to come back to my values to understand how to regulate my nervous system. I don't try and make big decisions or do a lot of heavy lifting in my business when my nervous system is dysregulated. I just know that now. I've got to go for a walk. I need to get on my vibration plate and shake. I need to do something to settle myself. And that's different than feeling uncomfortable or feeling, you know, right before I do a social post and oh God, it's gonna how cringy is this gonna be? That's different. But I know that now. Like that's the example of a great tool of that I would get from coaching. It's okay, I'm gonna put this social post out there, cringy, all of it. I'm gonna do it anyway. That's very different than needing to regulate my nervous system and settle before I make a do a launch or make an offer to someone.

SPEAKER_01:

Did I answer your question? What I heard is your ability to make strategic decisions is possible when you are coaching yourself and from a regulated place in your nervous system. Whereas without coaching, trying to run a business, it's very easy to make a decision out of scarcity or out of fear or a decision that leads to an unintentional result, something that you don't actually want to create for you. So yes, you definitely did. Great, great. And I'm curious because I know you have a belief that coaching is a superpower for people. And I'm curious, like, what was the moment that you were like, ah, this is a superpower? This is something that like sets me aside.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I mean, I think I've I've been very bought in on it since 2012, since I was exposed to coaching. So I've I've been a believer, but there have been a couple of really key moments. One was recently when my position at the Life Coach School ended about two years ago because the company went in a different direction and we offboarded a lot of. The coaches and instructors we have there. So I found myself at a moment where I could try and find that kind of position for another online entrepreneur or another big-time coach. Or I could create my own business. And in that moment, I knew that I never wanted to work for anyone else again. I wanted to be in charge of my own legacy. I wanted to create my own destiny. I wanted to be fully in charge. And I had a lot of skills at that point. So I could probably do it, but I knew I wouldn't be able to be successful unless I changed my mind and changed my belief. And my belief that I had about myself was that I did not get the entrepreneurial gene. I wonder if some of your studio owners feel this way too. Sometimes it's like, oh my God, I love Pilates so much. But I didn't get the entrepreneurial gene. I didn't get the marketing gene. I'm not good at business. I'm not good at math. Any of those things that we just casually say, I knew as long as that belief was running in the background, all my desire to succeed would never, I'd never be able to outrun that belief or outwork that belief. So I literally had to dismantle it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And break up with it and let it go and prove that I am an entrepreneur. And by saying it to myself over and over and over again, even when I didn't have any evidence that it was true. And so that was like one of the most recent moments where I was like, oh yeah, this coaching thing, when you get your mindset aligned with your vision. So my vision was to have my own business, aligning my mindset towards that. Has it been easy? No, but I know I'm on my way. Absolutely 100% on my way. So that was really the moment where I was like, okay, this is it. This this does really, really work.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. The the sentence you said, you can never outwork a mindset that's gonna work against you, a bad mindset. I don't want to label it bad, but like you can never outwork a mindset, it's so true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Well, it's like it's two opposing things. I want my own business, and I have this terrible belief that is gonna prevent me from creating a business. How is that gonna go? We know how it's gonna go. With if bots create things, then we know how this is gonna go. So it's like I I could learn some marketing and learn social media and learn funnels and learn email systems, all this skill building on this side while taking the mindset work and breaking up with that terrible belief and then incrementally replacing it with new beliefs about my capability as an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01:

What do you believe now?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh well, I believe I have a seat at the table, the entrepreneurial big table. I believe I'm a business woman, I believe I'm a business owner. I refer to myself as a CEO and founder.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Oh, so beautiful. Yeah. I know there's someone listening that is like thinking they can fake those beliefs. They can just say it to themselves enough. Where they're telling themselves, I'm a CEO, I'm a CEO, but deep down they feel the same imposter syndrome or doubt or whatever it is holding them back. What would you say to those people? Because I can tell you genuinely believe it. Like from your body to your brain outward, it is true.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. So I mean, I think acknowledging, I always I am the biggest fan of truth telling. So telling yourself the truth that you're saying something that you don't quite believe yet. Be honest with yourself about that. This is where I'm at. It's an aspiring belief, and I still don't believe it. That is my truth. That is that is the best I have today. Perhaps tomorrow I may believe it in it like one degree more. Yeah. It's possible I'm gonna create belief. We also have to take a bunch of action, we also have to do things. So I needed to give myself evidence. Writing a newsletter every single week for 35 people on my mailing list when I first started out. It was like, okay, another newsletter written. All right, 52 weeks of newsletters written. That's what business owners do, that's what CEOs do. Silly things like, do you all do holiday cards where you send out like a photo and little updates on everything? Even putting on a holiday card, I opened my own business. Oh. So anywhere I could think of signaling, leading with it, adding it to conversations, just to hear myself say it, just to watch myself say it, just to put it into the world, like energetically, keep building upon it. So that's what I did. And maybe that will be helpful to others that are are feeling that that disconnect between the true belief and still in a little bit of imposter syndrome.

SPEAKER_01:

I think collecting the evidence is so key and looking for the small clues we'll call them, right? Most people are looking for the big revenue number or the studio opening or whatever it may be. And in reality, writing a newsletter to 35 people, I'm sure that you had a fabulous open rate. Like I know that they were opening that email and reading it. And that open rate is the piece of data or the piece of evidence that you can look look to and say, no, look, like this is telling me I'm on the right track, even if I don't have the big quote unquote piece yet. And eventually over time it adds up. So you left the school or the school dissolved in a sense. You started your own business. Was that coaching certification from the get-go, or was it coaching clients?

SPEAKER_00:

One-on-one coaching is what I have done since I left the school. So that's my primary aspect of my business is one-on-one coaching. And then I also created a certification for coaches specifically, but also for anyone who's thinking that they want to understand these tools to deepen their relationship, better their relationship with themselves, lead more effectively at home. I mean, I love to say like at the kitchen table or at the boardroom in their corporate offices. I mean, these skills are so universal and so helpful. Um, so I started the certification this year in 2025.

SPEAKER_01:

Amazing. Coaching certification pairs so well with the yoga certification or a Pilate certification, especially for the business owner that has a team. I think this is what really shifted for me as I was managing a team of 30 people and more. If I was trying to lead without coaching skills, I did. I was awful. I micromanaged, I was unhappy, I expected a ton, like I was just not an efficient leader. And then learning coaching skills, I was able to turn to compassion and curiosity and non-attachment and helping them become leaders as employees, if that makes sense. And that is what made me a transformational leader for my team. And so I think there are so many people listening that have a team that could benefit from coaching their team instead of managing their team.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes, yes. Well, and it's fun talking about it. I do this in the certification, but also with a lot of my clients because I work with a lot of leaders and high-end coaches who have big teams, and we talk about like what it means to understand and even guess a bit at like your employee, like what's their main emotion when they come to work? What's the main thing that they feel most days when they're there? Why do you think they feel that way? Is there anything as their leader that you may be able to do to influence them thinking and feeling slightly differently when they walk into your space? And even talking about the customers, like what is the desired feeling you want your customers to have when they leave one of your classes? Oh, okay. That's that's the emotion you want them to leave the studio with. Amazing. So now we get to work backwards and think about well, what are all the things that you would put in place to increase the likelihood of them feeling that way when they leave? It's just so amazing. Like when we're going, either employees or clients or customers thinking about their desired result, their desired emotion, the desired thought you want them to have about your place of work or the studio. There's so many more touch points that we can work on instead of do this my way. This is the way we do things here. It's like, okay, that is a way to lead, but yeah, really connecting to the humans that are working for us and the humans that are buying our services or products is so much more interesting. I resonate with that so much.

SPEAKER_01:

I remember sitting down and deciding that I intentionally wanted to become the place that people wanted to work. And that is what kind of led all of my hiring and onboarding and team building. And that is it's not an emotion, but that is the thing that I wanted them to walk away with, that they wanted to be there. And I think if you don't intentionally choose that, unintentionally, it will be chosen for you just by everyone showing up however they show up, anyways. Yes. Just by deciding your values or your mission statement and making sure your team knows it, making sure your your students know it. It's so important and so key, but all of it comes from you knowing your own mind and having that clarity to say, this is what I want them to feel, or this is what I want them to experience here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, exactly. And then it becomes so obvious that if someone is maybe was very aligned in the beginning, but something feels off, oh, we now have a misalignment on our values. They're valuing something else that that's not the values of this business. Okay, this is an easy decision that we it's time for us to part ways. Yeah. Or it just all of a sudden gives you great guardrails and boundaries around who you want working there and who you don't.

SPEAKER_01:

I can hear that cleaner. The non-attachment in your voice when you say that. Instead of I have to fire someone or hire someone, it's time for us to part ways, or we're aligned, let's work together. It's very clean.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes. And we keep a lot of, even though you and I have been talking about emotions a lot, we keep a lot of emotions out of the day-to-day running business because we're not we're not running them based on our emotions. We're clued into what we're what we're witnessing and what's happening and how we can use emotions in decision making, but we're making decisions from a very energetically clean place with really good information, not just are we having a good day or a bad day or a good month or a bad month or things like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Okay. I want to circle back to this line in your bio. We started a trusted guide for midlife women who've outgrown the lives they've spent years building. Some of the people who are listening are young and they're starting with yoga or Pilates and they found their passion, they want to do it. And some people are pivoting. They have found this, they have something else, they've built something out, they've been a stay-at-home mom, whatever it may be. What would you say to the person who is maybe on the edge? If I'd love to have a studio, but I have 10 years as a lawyer or 20 years as a mom, what is your first piece of advice for them?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I mean, again, I I've said this before, like normalizing that dilemma. That's like a big dilemma to hold. And there's nothing wrong with being conflicted with that, especially if lots of schooling or lots of years were put behind building up an identity, mother, attorney, business owner, whatever it is. And people have come to know us through that identity. And we we know who we are, we know ourselves clearly through that identity as well. So to think about leaving that behind, that is a big deal. But we also know internally when we can't ignore the thing that's calling us next.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's just in this ever-present, you're meant for more, you're meant for something new, there's an the next thing for you coming. So this can be the perfect time to have a coach. I mean, honestly, to help parse that out and figure out a way to release and maybe grieve what you're letting go of. Yeah. It's often really hard. I mean, I've now launched three beautiful young ladies out into the world, and you know, as excited as I am for them, I grieve the part of me that used to be very involved in their lives and very needed and very relied upon, and I'm not that person anymore. And so I grieve that, and I'm so excited for what this moment in my life is presenting me as well. So having a coach help with the letting go, having a coach help with the stepping into the what's next, and just making a really well-informed decision can be invaluable.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I'm gonna ask a personal coaching question because I have you on the podcast. So I yeah, what do you need? Well, I have the inkling that there's something new. Not that I'm you guys, I'm not getting rid of this podcast for my business, but there's something else that's different, that's new, that's being born, and I'm having a hard time trusting that. I'm kind of like talking myself out of it. I shouldn't do it, I should stick with what I've got. Things are good now, but I feel it and it won't go away.

SPEAKER_00:

Where do you feel it?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, it's in my heart, it's in my chest.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. And what do you think it wants you to know?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, that's a great question. Oh wow. I think it's kind of like let it let this be good, let it like let yourself trust this. It's kind of what I'm getting.

SPEAKER_00:

And if you ignored this forever, what would happen?

SPEAKER_01:

Even you asking that question, I can feel like a it's like someone turning down the volume.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, or dimming the light. Yeah, yeah. So that's just so good to know. Like whether you do something with this immediately or not, like there's a part of you that will not let you shut this down.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That would be a disservice to you. That would be um like an abandonment of what's true. That's so good. And so you don't have to do anything right away, but it's just good to know that this is important.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's really important.

SPEAKER_01:

That was such a beautiful example of coaching within like two minutes. I love it. Okay, well, I'd love to hear a little bit more about your certification or even your coaching services where people can find you and connect with you and where next steps from here.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice. Thank you. So I'm doing another certification in January of 2026, and I love a small cozy cohort because I'm in the classroom, I'm teaching live, I'm mentoring live, I'm coaching live, I'm giving feedback live. It's just this beautiful, I can imagine similar to yoga teacher training, where it's really hands-on, no modules, no videos, no recordings, just like you in the space. I do it online, of course, but you in the space live with me becoming an amazing self-coacher and coacher. And then I do one-on-one coaching, six month packages for private clients. And you can learn all about those two things on my website, KDPulsivercoaching.com.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and we will link that in the show notes. They can find you there. And I would just say anyone who is considering a coaching certification, I haven't gone through your certification, but I have gone through your onboarding and your training process. And you did influence how I coach and how I work today. And so I can almost guarantee that person like you will leave with solid coaching skills that you can put into practice. I feel very confident saying that.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you. Appreciate that.

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Yeah, thank you so much, Katie. Thank you for being here. And everyone else, we will talk to you in the next episode. Bye bye. Bye. Thank you.